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[mouse]

More on this:

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/27/report-fbis-facial-recognition-database-is-out-of-control/

“Approximately half of adult Americans’ photographs are stored in facial recognition databases that can be accessed by the FBI, without their knowledge or consent, in the hunt for suspected criminals,” reported The Guardian on Monday. “About 80% of photos in the FBI’s network are non-criminal entries, including pictures from driver’s licenses and passports. The algorithms used to identify matches are inaccurate about 15% of the time, and are more likely to misidentify black people than white people.”

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[MamaLiberty]

The algorithms used to identify matches are inaccurate about 15% of the time, and are more likely to misidentify black people than white people.”

I suspect that the errors are far greater than that. Not too sure why this bothers you so much, Mouse. I don't worry about it. Most of this crap is done because people fly, go into government buildings, and are in high profile places for other purposes. It's pretty simple to just avoid all that. Is it right or good, of course not, but there isn't a damned thing any of us can do about it except avoid it.

[MamaLiberty]

Here is a good article about such data collection. You can choose not to participate (mostly), or you can join in the fun of providing them with tons of false data. I'm sure that anyone trying to monitor the phones and voices in my home are either seriously puzzled or undergoing psych evaluation and treatment. The land line phone rings probably once a week, sometimes more but usually even less - usually telemarketers and I hang up as soon as the recording clicks. The cell phone rings at wide intervals, but I don't answer it because only three people legitimately have the number and they know not to call it - so, mostly telemarketers and who knows? I'm mostly deaf, so don't play recordings, movies, etc. There are days on end when the only conversation is me asking the dog if he wants to go out, or telling him he's a good dog. Must drive them NUTS. 

Digital Spies in Your Home (Not Mine)   http://www.garynorth.com/public/16363.cfm
Gary North

I have no doubt that government agencies are going to use any access that citizens give them to invade their homes. This is free information as far as the government is concerned. They can collect it almost free of charge. They can store it on a permanent basis. They never know when they will use it, but if they want to use it, they will be able to.

As far as the CIA is concerned, it is going to find itself drowning in data. Computers can monitor our informational digits, but bureaucrats have to make decisions about the value of this information to their agencies. The more data they have to survey, the more paralyzed these agencies are going to become. The quality of the data will keep getting better, and the quality of the bureaucrats will keep getting lower. Competent people are not going to spend their lives digging around in the muck of digital data.

The federal government's bureaucrats have an innate desire to play God. One of the attributes of God is omniscience. Every time anyone pursues this goal, he winds up paralyzed. Yet this is basic to most federal government agencies. They feel compelled to gather more data. They don't know what to do with this information. They don't know how to analyze it. They don't know how to take action in terms of it. All they know is that they want more of it. The Internet of Things is going to give them massive quantities of data.

I think it is far more likely that companies are going to use the data to track how we use our household appliances. They are going to get huge amounts of data, and out of this data will emerge patterns of behavior. These patterns are going to be worth billions of dollars. Digital data really is the new oil. If we give our data away to these companies, they are going to put it to profitable use.

I have no need to control my appliances by voice command. I have no need to monitor them. I am not going to pay for the privilege of having government agencies and private companies invade my home and record my activities. I suggest you adopt the same attitude.

[knobster]

Here is a good article about such data collection. You can choose not to participate (mostly), or you can join in the fun of providing them with tons of false data.

 
There are times I go onto Amazon and search for all sorts of weird things.  Just to give those that collect data plenty of rabbit holes to go down into.

[mouse]

Not too sure why this bothers you so much, Mouse. or good, of course not, but there isn't a damned thing any of us can do about it except avoid it.

I am really, really bothered by this data collection and sharing.  I have been almost obsessively bothered by it since 1998 when NZ imposed a "driver licence database of digital images" on people here at the demand of the UN. 

At that time I thought it was unique, but I did a lot of reading at the time and found that a database has existed in the US (in fact most other places too but the US is the one that has been written about the most) for "ages" and it even carries everyone's addresses, past and present.  I was utterly horrified and literally cringe whenever I read (usually in a fiction story but presumably it would not say something that could easily be found to be not true) of someone in ANY government department or police in any state accessing it easily.

If what I read about the FBI (and this information never comes from fiction books) is true, they are the most dangerous government department ever and I find it amazing that people trust them with their most personal information (DNA, face recognition - these things have suddenly become "acceptable" data to be collected about people).  I am concerned about incompetence by "FBI agents", police and other government employees, and people getting wrongly convicted of offences because of it.

What's the point in denying information about you like what library books you take out, what books you buy on Amazon and how many gun parts or machine parts you have bought on e-bay or even what brand of soap powder you buy, to a marketing company, when the government has easy access to your driving licence picture, your addresses since you were a teenager, your employment history (and probably a lot more I just can't bring to mind at this time) and in a lot of cases, your fingerprints? 

I am not concerned about it for me personally (well, to be honest, I am not important enough for it to matter) but I am concerned about it for you and anyone else who wants basic freedom and
values liberty.  How people use their household appliances seems rather trivial information when compared to the police in any state having free, quick access to your current and previous address, your picture, your previous name/s, employment etc.

[MamaLiberty]

If what I read about the FBI (and this information never comes from fiction books) is true, they are the most dangerous government department ever and I find it amazing that people trust them with their most personal information

Every part and person in the non-voluntary government is corrupt and dangerous. That's a really good place to start with one's thinking. And those who willingly give those criminals any information will, no doubt, eventually reap what they sow. I'm not responsible for what anyone else does, of course, nor am I able to do anything about it.

Did you read the article about data overload? Sure they collect it, and complicate their own problems as a result.

I am not concerned about it for me personally (well, to be honest, I am not important enough for it to matter)

LOL! EXACTLY. The high profile people who represent a "threat" to the criminals should be afraid of it all, but very few people present any credible threat to them to start with, and those are usually other government criminals in the first place. Yes, good people trying to do good things for liberty are sometimes a target, but they have to know the risks going in. The data gatherers and users are far, far outnumbered by the ordinary people who present no (known) threat to anyone. And I enjoy the heck out of seeing all of the infighting, the betrayals and back stabbing the criminals IN government carry on among them. This new "administration" and his enemies is the best entertainment I've had in years.

How people use their household appliances seems rather trivial information 

Trivial indeed, and only adding to the chaos of too much information.  But the danger of tattletale appliances is more in the way that data can drive marketing to consumers, not what's reported to government about how often you open the doors or what temperature you set. And, as with all advertisement and marketing, the individual actually has all the control he/she needs, regardless. I do not allow advertising to control my spending or decisions, and use them as a guideline only rarely. And I have no use for "smart" phones, refrigerators or anything else. The dumb ones work just fine. But if people choose to be monitored, herded and controlled... again, none of my business and not my problem.