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Author Topic: We're all tresspassers now in the face of gov't land grabs  (Read 183 times)

mouse

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I hate to keep harping on the same old subject, but this proves the 2nd amendment is necessary.  "You don't actually own anything" is true only in theory, all "mala prohibita" laws are a gov't fantasy.  Of course you own the property that you can occupy and defend.  Gov't can only take something if they can send men with guns to take it from you and you either stand back and let them or are overpowered and not able to defend what you have.  It is true of course that you don't really "own" anything as God has made it, he "owns" it and will destroy it some day, but he gave it to you and yours for your and their lifetimes because you were the one (or maybe your ancestors) who worked for this property and acquired it.  God did not give gov't any property, or authority to take property from anyone, or authority of any kind.  If you allow yourself to buy into the illusion that the government is selling, the illusion that says that they own everything, then they will ride roughshod over you and all that you have.

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/were_all_trespassers_now_in_the_face_of_the_governments_land_grabs_short

That house you live in, the car you drive, the small (or not so small) acreage of land that has been passed down through your family or that you scrimped and saved to acquire, whatever money you manage to keep in your bank account after the government and its cronies have taken their first and second and third cut…none of it is safe from the government’s greedy grasp.
At no point do you ever have any real ownership in anything other than the clothes on your back.
Everything else can be seized by the government under one pretext or another (civil asset forfeiture,

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Re: We're all tresspassers now in the face of gov't land grabs
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2018, 05:23:11 am »

Has nothing to do with the "second amendment" at all. When people defend their families, their property and themselves, that's what counts.
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Re: We're all tresspassers now in the face of gov't land grabs
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2018, 07:44:49 am »

Has nothing to do with the "second amendment" at all. When people defend their families, their property and themselves, that's what counts.

Yeah it does really.  Because - as history has taught us - guns are taken away from the population, then the next step is to take everything else they have too, and enslave them.  You might not have to use the guns to defend your property but "government agents" are less likely to take property from an armed family or individual who will fire back at them.

The 2nd amendment serves as an equaliser in this case.
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Re: We're all tresspassers now in the face of gov't land grabs
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2018, 08:19:16 am »

The words written on the parchment are meaningless. There is simply no mechanism there to enforce the prohibitions on government. It's a feel good - does nothing exercise in futility.

The absolute right to self defense would not be different if those words were never written. It is only the choices and actions of individuals that can protect them from whatever threat faces them. There are zero guarantees, and the 2A is no exception.
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Re: We're all tresspassers now in the face of gov't land grabs
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2018, 05:32:25 pm »

Without the 2nd amendment, the left would have got its way (total gun control of the civilian population) years ago.

How many times have I heard "..... but its enshrined in the constitution".
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Re: We're all tresspassers now in the face of gov't land grabs
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2018, 08:50:28 am »

The Second Amendment has been good CONCEALMENT for our property rights. Effective COVER is provided only by the willingness to use it for its intended purpose, violent defense. The concealment has delayed the need for the cover, but not made it unnecessary.
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Re: We're all tresspassers now in the face of gov't land grabs
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2018, 06:24:06 pm »

The Second Amendment has been good CONCEALMENT for our property rights. Effective COVER is provided only by the willingness to use it for its intended purpose, violent defense. The concealment has delayed the need for the cover, but not made it unnecessary.

I agree, Bill.
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