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RidleyReport

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New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« on: January 18, 2019, 10:36:11 am »


With U.S. police killing about 1,000 people a year
compared to German police who kill about four
I can appreciate the spirit of this bill.

https://legiscan.com/NH/text/HB218/id/1833526

Some of the Stockholm syndromers online are upset that the bill comes from "liberty Republicans."  In New Hampshire, Republicans are more  libertarian than in most places and really do want to limit the govt.

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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2019, 11:08:48 am »

I will pass on NH

I am finding Wyoming is freer.
and cheaper.

but Wyoming is not for the faint of heart.
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2019, 11:57:21 am »

geographically I guess i'd rather live in wyoming; I did scout wyoming , interviewed locals and wrote up a report before voting in favor of New Hampshire reluctantly.   we voted on which state we would move to.  NH lacks the dry mountain beauty of wyoming but it just has more freedom and jobs than wyoming; it won the debate.  another factor was that people here actively welcomed us, in wyoming they seemed more cool toward the endeavor although friendly.
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2019, 07:07:20 pm »

geographically I guess i'd rather live in wyoming; I did scout wyoming , interviewed locals and wrote up a report before voting in favor of New Hampshire reluctantly.   we voted on which state we would move to.  NH lacks the dry mountain beauty of wyoming but it just has more freedom and jobs than wyoming; it won the debate.  another factor was that people here actively welcomed us, in wyoming they seemed more cool toward the endeavor although friendly.

I voted against New Hampshire. Is the guy who started the free state thing still active?

Probably because the people in Wyoming already think they are free. Free state Wyoming apparently failed and kenneth royce might not be the only reason. 

 I'm glad that free state New Hampshire is doing well. From what I see you guys are doing stuff that no one else is.

 
« Last Edit: January 25, 2019, 09:53:31 pm by jamie »
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2019, 07:37:47 pm »

I know there is a rural New Hampshire but everything is still too close and too many people for me.

Vermont is much less sparsely populated, almost as much so as Wyoming. Unfortunately, it's highly socialist, with high taxes, and its blessed lack of 2A infringements is beginning to fail, with a standard capacity mag ban, universal background checks, and bump stock prohibition signed into law last April. https://legislature.vermont.gov/bill/status/2018/S.55

Vermont carry survives, but hard to say for how long.
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2019, 10:48:22 pm »

i appreciate your kind words about what we've achieved by way of liberty improvements in new hampshire, and we're proud of it, but ultimately we're just the least bad of many insufficient libertarian political endeavors.  fortunately in one sense all we have to do is keep the state from getting worse, or reduce any decline to a crawl.  I think we've managed at least that.  and it will keep looking better and better here compared to all the other states that are descending into authoritarianism.   that in turn  should trigger more movers as the move makes more and more of a positive difference in the mover's life.   but we'd rather roll back the authorities and sometimes we do.
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2019, 12:18:23 pm »

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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2019, 07:33:20 pm »

oh and in belated answer to the question, Dr. Sorens did move to NH... I think around 2010.  I think he was a university professor here last I checked, but our most active person is probably Carla Gericke ....  it's like she's lit on fire this year or something.
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2019, 12:24:08 am »

I know there is a rural New Hampshire but everything is still too close and too many people for me.

Vermont is much less sparsely populated, almost as much so as Wyoming. Unfortunately, it's highly socialist, with high taxes, and its blessed lack of 2A infringements is beginning to fail, with a standard capacity mag ban, universal background checks, and bump stock prohibition signed into law last April. https://legislature.vermont.gov/bill/status/2018/S.55

Vermont carry survives, but hard to say for how long.

Vermont
size-9,616 sq miles
population density-67.7 per sq mile

Wyoming
size-97,914 sq miles
population density-5.97 per sq mile

the county I live in
size
9,658 sq miles
population density 1.7 per sq mile

I still find everything in Vermont too close and too many people.
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2019, 12:41:10 am »

oh and in belated answer to the question, Dr. Sorens did move to NH... I think around 2010.  I think he was a university professor here last I checked, but our most active person is probably Carla Gericke ....  it's like she's lit on fire this year or something.

thanks for the response.   I exchanged a couple of e mails with Jason Sorens back when he invented the free state concept.  He was very well spoken and polite.

Even if I did make a sarcastic remark about the state motto, Live free or die.
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Re: New Hampshire bill would restrict police deadly force
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2019, 01:54:42 pm »

Vermont
size-9,616 sq miles
population density-67.7 per sq mile

Wyoming
size-97,914 sq miles
population density-5.97 per sq mile

the county I live in
size
9,658 sq miles
population density 1.7 per sq mile

I still find everything in Vermont too close and too many people.

Heh. Wyoming has a lot of empty space, populated only by wild animals. I lived in Cheyenne, from 1958 to 1974. Significantly larger population density there, and more socialist than most of the state.
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