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Alchemist

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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« on: July 12, 2005, 10:51:03 am »

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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2005, 11:15:09 am »

Carnegie Endowment?

A tentacle of the beast.

What else should one expect but socialist effluvium?

"Rights are valid, where not prohibited by Law." Of course.
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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2005, 11:20:37 am »

I've never had anything to do with the LP, for which I am grateful.  A smaller plate of crow to eat.

I'm beginning to think I should stop using the word "libertarian" in connection with my own thoughts and actions, under all circumstances.  There are some brushes I do not wish to be tarred with.
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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2005, 12:37:38 pm »

Lightning and I originally met through the LP.  We fought and fought a lot of hidden statism, some of which I even supported until Lightning was able to make me snap out of it.  There are people that we became friends with that have relatively high-standing in the LP (and whom shall remain nameless) that we now wouldn't trust if our lives depended on it.

It would appear that our fears and reasons for leaving the LP were justified.
 
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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2005, 02:09:43 pm »

Just damn....  
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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2005, 02:24:17 pm »

My wife and I were local-level LP activists a couple of decades back, and we still get their monthly newspaper. It became clear a long time ago that the primary purpose of the LP was the survival and growth of the LP.

Not that all the activist members necessarily feel that way -- a lot of them are trying to do good inside the organization. But the organization as a whole is aiming for "respectability" and an increase in dues-paying members first and foremost.

That is why they have issued this respectable, realistic, pragmatic (choke) plan for bringing some troops home from Iraq and moving the rest to places like Afghanistan where the population loves Americans, and giving billions of US taxpayers' dollars to the Iraqi government.

That is why an anti-immigrant faction of the party is busy "clarifying" (their term) the open-borders LP platform plank on immigration to read "...it is the legitimate function and obligation of government to protect the lives, rights and property of its citizens, demanding awareness of and control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who may pose a threat to security, health or property."

That is why the lead front-page article in the LP News celebrates a batch of Oregon LP members who got themselves elected to local government-school committees and a government-school board. "We can show people in the community that Libertarians believe in education."

I don't think the LP is an evil thing -- or, at least, it's not nearly as evil as the current powers-that-be. I do think that it's sucking the life force out of idealistic activists in a rather parasitic manner, and not contributing much in return.
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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2005, 02:44:28 pm »

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It became clear a long time ago that the primary purpose of the LP was the survival and growth of the LP.

Precisely.

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Bullshit.

I don't need no steenking party.
 
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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2005, 11:16:05 pm »

Thats the shittiest bill of rights I've read.  It isn't a recipe for peace and freedom, its a recipe for a socialist police state.

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Claire's Blog, 7/12 - LP has fallen far
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2005, 04:15:52 pm »

I wrote a post about the exit plan to this board. I stated in that post that I started a group called LP members against the exit plan. I started the group on July 1. I'm a member of the LP and I oppose the plan.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPmembersaga...insttheexitplan
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