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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2005, 06:41:58 pm »

OK since tangents seem to be cool, how about this - and please bear with me, It usually takes about 3 horus of editing to make anything I say come out like english....


Instead of mass breeding (I'm all for the practice, but little kids are a lot of hard work!)  and instead of converting all the Mormons to libertarians, why don't we all become Teachers and get jobs in public schools (yeah, I know, but perhaps we can make the system work for us instead of against us for a change?).  That way you will have access to 100+ kids a year that you don't have to be financially responsible for!  All it would take is about 1 teacher for every 100 students.  One of the problems with society today, is bad parenting.  Parents do not want to spend time raising their kids.  Instead they give their kids to the state to raise.  Well, if that’s what they want to do, why shouldn't we take advantage of it?  All it would take is a 1000 freedom minded teachers to turn out 100,000 freedom minded students PER YEAR!  10 years is 1 million people graduating high school and working to change society.  Even if it takes 1 teacher for 50 students, that is still half a million kids every year.  And eventually those kids grow into adults and have kids of their own, and within 30 or 40 years, the love of liberty and freedom with begin to spread like wildfire.


Or I could just be making stuff up as I go along.  I will have to think about this one for a while.
 
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2005, 07:47:13 pm »

Claire,
It is indeed admirable that you are willing to give Irvin's idea a fair hearing and the benefit of the doubt.

I see it though as one doomed to failure. Lib's will always be a minority everywhere, other than in intentional communities. People have free will and most don't  choose liberty (and never have).

Life is too short and resources are too limited to have children other than because you want them for their own sake and to love. About the only thing I agree with Ralph Nader on was his decision not to have any children since he knew at an early age he wanted a peripatetic  political life-style and so wouldn't be a good parent. So he's never married or had children. I cannot see using innocent children as variables in a political science experiment as anything but immoral.

I was raised in Islam which I left when I was 17 and I've never gone back to any religious faith. Both my brothers and sister remain faithful. Having children "raised in faith" (political or religious), doesn't guarantee anything about how they'll turn out.

That is how I see it anyhow.
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2005, 07:50:07 pm »

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****This reply is not directed to Lightning, specifically, just as she did not direct her statements to anybody specifically. ****

It is my experience that when women start on this crusade to change their men, it is never enough. Once a man changes anything about themselves for the woman, they will be on a lifelong journey of self help books and "talking" about their feelings, and chasing their tail.  And it will never be enough. In other words....if a woman is trying to change the guy, and the guy is feeling a bit strange about what is going down....it is likely you are being enslaved. Gee, and she loved you for being you, so very much in the beginning.

Alone and bitter? I doubt it. I love being single and happy. I have no shortage of women in my life. Well rounded women who worry about their own shit, and not mine.

Everytime I hear a woman compare or speak to straight men about gay men in endearing tones, I run. It will be the women who are alone and bitter.  I have been reading  this bs about men and it is so obvious that women are the bitter ones, who have issues with heterosexual men. It has been my experience that one who namecalls and accuses first is the guilty one with the issues.
Not wanting to jack the thread more than I already have, here, I will say just a couple of quick things:

First, byron, I'm truly glad that you enjoy your life as is, and that you have independent women as friends too.  That's very cool.

Second, perhaps my views of libertarian men are rather limited, as they have been confined mainly to several Eastern states.  Things might be VERY different where y'all are.

And third, I was not advocating women trying to "change their men," although I can see why you thought I was.  No, on the contrary, all I meant was that grown men AND women are big enough to take proactive responsibility for cleaning up their own messes.  Especially if they want to live together.  So we agree, actually.

My apologies for any misunderstandings I caused.

B)  :)
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2005, 08:10:44 pm »

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OK since tangents seem to be cool, how about this - and please bear with me, It usually takes about 3 horus of editing to make anything I say come out like english....


Instead of mass breeding (I'm all for the practice, but little kids are a lot of hard work!)  and instead of converting all the Mormons to libertarians, why don't we all become Teachers and get jobs in public schools (yeah, I know, but perhaps we can make the system work for us instead of against us for a change?).  That way you will have access to 100+ kids a year that you don't have to be financially responsible for!  All it would take is about 1 teacher for every 100 students.  One of the problems with society today, is bad parenting.  Parents do not want to spend time raising their kids.  Instead they give their kids to the state to raise.  Well, if that’s what they want to do, why shouldn't we take advantage of it?  All it would take is a 1000 freedom minded teachers to turn out 100,000 freedom minded students PER YEAR!  10 years is 1 million people graduating high school and working to change society.  Even if it takes 1 teacher for 50 students, that is still half a million kids every year.  And eventually those kids grow into adults and have kids of their own, and within 30 or 40 years, the love of liberty and freedom with begin to spread like wildfire.


Or I could just be making stuff up as I go along.  I will have to think about this one for a while.
WE had a couple of teachers in my high school who did just what you suggested - they influenced thousands of kids over the years and were both very popular teachers - with the students that is  :D

They taught economics and social studies Drs. Black and Haines.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2005, 08:51:21 pm »

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2005, 02:20:51 am »

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Actually, the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints solved this one for us.

We libertarians need to begin a program of polygamous marriage ... libertarian foundations and think tanks can help by contributing money for the provision of mail-order brides to socially inept libertarians.

 
Right on! Where do I sign up? I need seven good wimmin!

(But..... do I gotta MARRY 'em?)

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As attractive as the fantasy aspects of that sorta thing are,  I have only one comment to add to it:

Synchronized cycles.

Don't that just pop that particular bubble?   :-0
 
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2005, 02:24:59 am »

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Synchronized cycles

Oh, the horror, the horror!!!!!! :o   Enough said.  
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2005, 08:34:22 am »

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As attractive as the fantasy aspects of that sorta thing are,  I have only one comment to add to it:

Synchronized cycles.

Don't that just pop that particular bubble?   :-0
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  

C'mon, Roy, you can handle it - er, them.  :lol:  :D
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2005, 05:47:51 pm »

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As attractive as the fantasy aspects of that sorta thing are,  I have only one comment to add to it:

Synchronized cycles.

Don't that just pop that particular bubble?   :-0
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  

C'mon, Roy, you can handle it - er, them.  :lol:  :D
Now THIS is what I'd put into the category of "an offer I couldn't refuse..."   :-)

Except for this persistent vision in the background of this other fella,  who's an ex-marine,  and rides a motorcycle,  and apparently has more guns than I do,  with me wondering if he's the jealous type.    :-D
 
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2005, 10:39:19 am »

Jeez ladies, if freedom-loving, independent men are all such nutcakes and misanthropes as some have said, maybe I'll reverse my oringinal position and say we should[/b] go to in vitro reproduction. I had no idea. No Monica Lewinsky's around Hardyville apparently.:huh:

I guess between the Hollywood Left, the Kennedy's, and Bill Clinton, all the alpha males are among the Democrats.
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Ben Irvin must be right. If you look at Rand, Rothbard, and most of the rest of the big brains behind the Freedomista movement many were chldless or had small families at best. The Kennedy's (just to name one faction) breed like rabbits on Viagra.   :lol:
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