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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2006, 07:48:51 pm »
Dr.M, you are so right about southwest Ky. Private mail on the way to you soon. 

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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2006, 10:00:13 pm »
Suijuris Freeman ending up where he is does indeed suck,  but can you imagine the effect that he might have just talking to people "on the inside"...?

If he can just change one mind out of 20,  the results oughta be *real* interesting to watch.  :-)
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2006, 12:35:15 pm »
Quote from: Roy J. Tellason on March 25, 2006, 10:00:13 pm
Suijuris Freeman ending up where he is does indeed suck,  but can you imagine the effect that he might have just talking to people "on the inside"...?

If he can just change one mind out of 20,  the results oughta be *real* interesting to watch.  :-)


This may be an unpopular (and inaccurate) statement, but has anyone thought that maybe Sui wanted to be convicted?  He was his own lawyer as I understood it.  Why no professional lawyer?  I agree that what happened to him sucks the Big One(tm), but perhaps, as the quoted author implies, this may have an impact for the common good.  He has effectively become a political martyr.
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2006, 02:38:56 pm »
Quote from: xanadian on April 07, 2006, 12:35:15 pm
This may be an unpopular (and inaccurate) statement, but has anyone thought that maybe Sui wanted to be convicted?  He was his own lawyer as I understood it.  Why no professional lawyer?  I agree that what happened to him sucks the Big One(tm), but perhaps, as the quoted author implies, this may have an impact for the common good.  He has effectively become a political martyr.

I doubt that he chose to defend himself because he wanted to be convicted. More likely it was because he didn't know any lawyers who could do a proper job of it. They would all want him to sacrifice his principles, something he was unwilling to do. At least that's my take on reading his writings. A good start is at http://billstclair.com/blog/stories/suijurisfreeman.html , which I put together from his first posts here.
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2006, 12:32:41 am »
Quote from: Bill St. Clair on April 07, 2006, 02:38:56 pm
Quote from: xanadian on April 07, 2006, 12:35:15 pm
This may be an unpopular (and inaccurate) statement, but has anyone thought that maybe Sui wanted to be convicted?  He was his own lawyer as I understood it.  Why no professional lawyer?  I agree that what happened to him sucks the Big One(tm), but perhaps, as the quoted author implies, this may have an impact for the common good.  He has effectively become a political martyr.

I doubt that he chose to defend himself because he wanted to be convicted. More likely it was because he didn't know any lawyers who could do a proper job of it. They would all want him to sacrifice his principles, something he was unwilling to do. At least that's my take on reading his writings. A good start is at http://billstclair.com/blog/stories/suijurisfreeman.html , which I put together from his first posts here.

I too tend to see it that way,  and am only considering this other thing as a side-effect...

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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2006, 01:16:21 pm »
does anyone have any independent documentation of this?

I cant find any independent news articles and cant even find anything on the courts website.

Id like to include this guys story in a short paper I am writing, but need some verifiable sources.

appreciate any help
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2006, 11:44:12 am »
I find nothing new. Anyone else?
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2006, 08:06:22 pm »
There are a few posts dated May 9 over at the Backwoods Home forum. Starts near the end of this page:

http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/forum.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1134168171;start=160

At that point they had accepted his attorney's motion for appeal and he was scheduled for a bail hearing, putting up his property as bond and signing his weapons over the relatives.
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2006, 02:17:48 pm »
Thanks, Bill. I was looking over at the Sagebrush Saloon.


txanne63> May 9th, 2006» ...will talk to daughter again--this week--new hearing should be next week I think.


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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2006, 08:41:59 am »
I miss Mr. Johnson.
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2006, 05:58:39 pm »
In the Fight for Freedom...

Kids were grown, WWJ and his spouse divorced, the house/property remained in her name, and he apparently went onwards to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

Why his choice of technique I'll ne'er understand, but I've heard of few so stalwart in following their choice. I too wait for news, of the appeal or of anything else.

Anyone watching Backwoods Home forum or heard anything since last time?
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2006, 02:04:18 am »
i have the thread bookmarked at bhm and check it every once in a while. i'm not on that forum, so i don't post. there hasn't been any news from that thread lately.

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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2006, 06:54:05 pm »
From what I gather, he's been on a few forums but not lately(maybe he changed his "name"?)  Unstructured was tinkering with a little book about him with his blessings back about a year ago.  I follow but since my source for information has gone away from me I just don't know.  I don't really care anymore since I pretty much know the details through all of his posts.  Y'all might want to check the Offender Tracking Lists of various states.  May peace be upon him and he's learned the art of invisibility since once you get out in the public eye, people come after you!  That's not to say he wasn't respected.  That's to say, there are ways to spread the word and live freedom without the headlines to make a point.  I  really do wish him well.  Let's keep him in our thoughts everyone!  Thanks for bumping this here thread up to where it belongs. 

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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2006, 08:21:47 pm »
And thanks to you all for sharing what you've heard. Best and luck to Ward.
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Re: Grand Jury Indicts Winston Ward Johnson
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2007, 09:21:15 pm »
I just received a PM asking me if I had any news on TCF member suijurisfreeman a.k.a. Winston Ward Johnson.  I'm embarrassed to admit I'd nearly forgotten about him.  You can read his tale in this thread and also this other thread.

Anybody know anything?
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