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godscarp

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Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« on: January 24, 2006, 02:15:38 pm »

Last night I was rummaging through the reading list in the back of the Gun Bilble.¬  I googled Thomas Chittum and one of the hits was from a separatist (black & white) forum that he spoke at in DC, back in the mid 90's.¬  The article was from "Strom Front".¬  I followed their link back to their forums¬  ¬ www.stromfront.org/forum/index .¬  I scrolled down the index and in the "Strategy and Tactics"¬  is a thread called: "Wyoming: A Place to Start".¬  The thrust of the thread is to take over Casper as an all white city, using the same political and social MO as the Free State Project.¬  The Free State Project,¬  Free State Wyoming, Molon Labe' and BTP are all mentioned among the posts.

Just a heads-up.
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Re: BTP: Strange Bed Fellows: All White Free State?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 03:16:16 pm »

I see what you mean.

But these people seem to be acting entirely independently.   



BTW, there is a misspelling in the web address
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Boston T. Party

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Re: BTP: Strange Bed Fellows: All White Free State?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2006, 03:32:26 pm »

I'd never heard of stormfront.org, and I've nothing to do with any
pack of collectivists.  I doubt if they'd ever read my novel Mol√īn Lab√©!,
which is blatantly anti-racist.

Last night I was rummaging through the reading list in the back of the Gun Bilble. I googled Thomas Chittum and one of the hits was from a separatist (black & white) forum that he spoke at in DC, back in the mid 90's. The article was from "Strom Front". I followed their link back to their forums www.stromfront.org/forum/index . I scrolled down the index and in the "Strategy and Tactics" is a thread called: "Wyoming: A Place to Start". The thrust of the thread is to take over Casper as an all white city, using the same political and social MO as the Free State Project. The Free State Project, Free State Wyoming, Molon Labe' and BTP are all mentioned among the posts.

Just a heads-up.

Your thread title is wholly inaccurate (bordering on libel) as the Free State Wyoming, BTP,
and Molon Labe are not mentioned in that thread's 5 pages found at:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=219057

You are falsely implying that the FSW and I are striving for an all-white state, but that is
provably not the case.  Correct your post immediately.

Boston T. Party
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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2006, 03:44:20 pm »

There, I changed it to something a little harder to misconstrue at first glance.

I've read Molon Labe, and if BTP is a white separatist he's keeping his sheets in the back of the closet where they can't be seen.  'Cause it doesn't show up in his writing.
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Boston T. Party

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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2006, 03:48:04 pm »

There, I changed it to something a little harder to misconstrue at first glance.

I've read Molon Labe, and if BTP is a white separatist he's keeping his sheets in the back of the closet where they can't be seen. 'Cause it doesn't show up in his writing.
Thanks for that, John. 

Now godscarp can correct his post. 
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godscarp

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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2006, 04:35:24 pm »

Boston, etal,  I apologize for any inference or inaccurate info in my post!
Reading through the thread, there are references to FSP and FSW but they DO NOT imply your involvement........I never would have wanted the "heads-up" to be construed that way.  I have read Molon Labe' and understand your positions...... hence the "heads-up"....... by the way, last week I mailed off FRNs for 2 more of your books and hope to meet up with you in  May.
Sorry for the slight, that certainly was not my intention!  God Bless, Carp
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Boston T. Party

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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2006, 05:59:07 pm »

godscarp
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there are references to FSP and FSW
Odd, because I searched each page with Control-f and nothing showed.
At your leisure, would you please post those URLs in which I or the FSW appear?

Thanks for the apology (accepted, of course) and clarification; I understand now.
And thanks for your book order.
I hope also to meet you in May.

Boston
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Boston T. Party

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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2006, 06:21:25 pm »

I've thoroughly read through all 5 pages, and found only the below
reference to anything connected with me, my novel, or the FSW:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=219057&page=2 (post #15)
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The libertarians have a Wyoming free state project. The project was sparked by a novel called Molon Labe which suposedly has some ideas on how to keep the liberals out. It's high on my list of things to read.

I doubt, that after reading Mol√īn Lab√©! and the FSW website they
would imagine me a supremacist friend or even fellow traveller. 

If the white race were so inherently superior, then all they'd have to do
is insist on a laissez-faire economy and the elimination of "affirmative action",
and everybody else would sink to their own proper level--right?  But how then
would they explain the persistent success of, for example, Asian immigrants?

godscarp, thanks indeed for the "heads up."  I'll need to keep abreast of such
things, primarily so that the FSW is not unfairly painted with a racist brush.
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TryingToBeUseful

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Re: BTP: Strange Bed Fellows: All White Free State?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2006, 10:53:14 pm »

Your thread title is wholly inaccurate (bordering on libel) as the Free State Wyoming, BTP,
and Molon Labe are not mentioned in that thread's 5 pages found at:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=219057

You are falsely implying that the FSW and I are striving for an all-white state, but that is
provably not the case.¬  Correct your post immediately.

Boston T. Party

Yo, Boston, let's be chillin', not killin' here, bro.  Who are you to be ordering people to correct their posts?  Trying to pressure and intimidate is the way of filth, crooks, and scum, not freedom lovers like you and I.  Tossing around terms like libel is just embarrassing.  Everybody libel everybody for all we should care.  It's called freedom.

Just chill out.  So he said "BTP: Strange Bed Fellows:  All White Free State?".  Big deal.  What if someone posted "TryingToBeUseful: Bedwetter and Pinko: Friends With Bill Clinton"?  Big deal.  You start bringing in the term "libel", and you bring in fear.  There's an implied threat there.  Visions materialize of emergency injunctions and suits for damages.  It evokes "comply with what I say, or else".  And that's the opposite of what we stand for.  I know that's not what you stand for, but others may not, so I just wanted to call you on this.  No reason to be so quick to jump on people's cases.  Live and let live.
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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2006, 11:21:22 pm »

TryingToBeUseful, the matter has already been resolved between
Carp and I.  When I read his initial title, and found no reference to
me or the FSW in the forum, I responded to defend myself and the FSW.

Turns out it was a misunderstanding, though I still couldn't find any
referance to me or the FSW.  (Only Molon was mentioned in passing,
and not even that was caught by my original control-f search.  I had
to actually wade through and read those 5 pages to find it.)

If anything inaccurate and malicious is posted about me, I will react
in similiar fashion so that they do not fester into "fact." 

How you handle posts of that sort made about you is your business.
(You'd let somebody call you a Bedwetting Pinko?) 
Well, at least you could always piss on them... ;)

Boston
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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2006, 11:41:00 pm »

I myself think as time goes on that both the east and the west will see "implications" made by outsiders as to all sorts of weird stuff, if only to attempt to pollute public opinion about those projects.......and as those projects mature and take physical form the implications made by those outsiders will become more and more outrageously vicious, as the fear grows that these projects might actually accomplish something........
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Boston T. Party

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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2006, 11:15:59 am »

ZooT, I agree, and the FSW has already seen a little of that.

It's one reason I've kept the public mission of our SofI very
"bland"--so that unfair "handles" cannot be easily placed on us.

Not that such will stop those who are truly ignorant or malicious.
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godscarp

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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2006, 11:48:44 am »

FYI:  That group forum claims 70k members world wide, 37k nationally and 23k of them are "active" and Lord knows how many guests and what "type" of "guests".  Every movement has it's fringe.  A copycat MO you could do without.  Carp
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Re: Free State Concept Finds Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2006, 11:49:23 pm »

From time to time, some doofus from Stormfront will register or re-register and spam some of the racist garbage at TheFiringLine.com or TheHighRoad.org.  I dunno.  Every three months or so.  Delete and ban...

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