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debra

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NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« on: March 16, 2006, 11:11:36 am »

From FSP March Newsletter

AN ACT prohibiting New Hampshire from participating in a national identification card system passed after a vote 270-84 by the New Hampshire House.

House Bill 1582 "The general court finds that the public policy established by Congress in the Real ID Act of 2005, Public Law 109-13, is contrary and repugnant to Articles 1 through 10 of the New Hampshire constitution as well as Amendments 4 though 10 of the Constitution for the United States of America. Therefore, the state of New Hampshire shall not participate in a national identification card system..."

The bill moves on to the NH Senate. Up to date discussion at NH Underground.

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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2006, 11:48:12 am »

Wow.  Cool.   :mellow:

Nice to see that they did it on principle, too, not just crying about "unfunded federal mandates."

I hope that this wasn't just a grandstanding move - that the NH Senate will also pass the bill.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2006, 01:39:15 pm »

It sure sounds like a little more than grandstanding, given the language of the bill, and the fact that it is a bill and not a resolution.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2006, 02:12:28 pm »

I hope they follow through and pass it. And then follow through further and tell the feds that they won't get any more federal income tax from NH residents if they retaliate by taking away their federal highway money. I wish some state had done that when Jimmy Carter instituted the 55 MPH speed limit.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2006, 05:42:02 pm »

Live free or die, motherf*cker.
Best news I've heard all day.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 05:44:36 pm »

Live free or die, motherf*cker.

Now THERE'S a sig line!
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2006, 05:59:26 pm »

This is the best news I've heard in quite some time!!!  I hope this passes the NH Senate and lights a fire under other states' asses.   :thumbsup:
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2006, 06:03:40 pm »

Live free or die, motherf*cker.

Now THERE'S a sig line!
I said that to a company psychologist once -- I was escorted off the premises by MP-5 totin' security guards [fired, in other words] the same day; the psychologist actually asked me if I meant it as a threat!
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2006, 06:06:40 pm »

Great! Now they need to quit requiring proof of social security for their driver's licenses.

Live free or die, motherf*cker.

Now THERE'S a sig line!
I said that to a company psychologist once -- I was escorted off the premises by MP-5 totin' security guards [fired, in other words] the same day; the psychologist actually asked me if I meant it as a threat!
Ooh! Great story! I should try that some time! No one would expect something like that from me! (note: I just got finished watching Firefly/Serenity so I'm in a rather rebellious mood.)
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2006, 07:53:17 am »

This is the best news I've heard in quite some time!!!  I hope this passes the NH Senate and lights a fire under other states' asses.   :thumbsup:

I'm with you, but it's not bloody likely. Here in Ohio, the governor's backing a bill that would allow the police to arrest anyone who declines to provide ID on request at any time for any reason, and has promised to veto legislation cleaning up CCW in cars.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2006, 10:01:24 am »

I'm convinced Ohio is the Fourth Reich, I can't wait to leave.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2006, 10:05:08 am »

I'm convinced Ohio is the Fourth Reich, I can't wait to leave.

Ohio is a strange state.  I lived in Toledo for about a half a year.  The state is a mix of old school conservatives and outright socialists.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2006, 12:43:10 am »

I'm convinced Ohio is the Fourth Reich, I can't wait to leave.

On all of my earlier travels across the country,  Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois were just places to get past.  Things really tended to open up once you got past St. Louis...

The next trip we take out west (I've no idea when,  but it'll happen sometime),  we're probably gonna take a somewhat more southerly route,  and avoid those states altogether,  I think.
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2006, 04:03:27 am »

Roy,

I'll agree about those states, and can only wonder if these states "are" the way they are because all three are rapidly dying industrial centers and they've got to keep all those factory rats under control
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Re: NH House passes act prohibiting participation in NID
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2006, 07:45:48 am »

That may be the case in Youngstown.  It's an aging city and most of the inhabitants are part of "greatest generation" (I hate that phrase, BTW) or were big union guys in the steel industry.  They still believe everybody owes them something.  While their whole lives they depended on government or outright crooks in the union to help them survive and still rely on them for their future.

Between Youngstown and Pittsburgh, they keep having disasterous social programs and government-funded development that never work and just keep asking for more of the same.  I live in a black hole of stupidity.


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